Talk:Cricket
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[edit]Being American I have never heard of Cricket until hearing it mentioned in cartoons my kids watch. The article uses game terms I am not familiar with & spent a lot of time clicking on links to learn them. Its time consuming & I still have no idea what the game is other than a ball & bat game. It would be nice if the article at least explained what the terms mean. Thank you! Neshutahi (talk) 02:45, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- While I agree articles like this can always be improved, I think you might be being a bit unfair when you say "I still have no idea what the game is other than a ball & bat game". I am one of those rare non-Americans who happens to know a fair bit about both cricket and baseball, so I went and had a look at the baseball article. The openings of both are very similarly structured, so it's obvious some attempt has been made in the past to make this one comprehensible to non-aficionados. Maybe if you gave us the first three or so examples of wording that confused you, we could see if we can improve the article. HiLo48 (talk) 05:00, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- I asked an AI what Cricket was & I understood it. Where I got lost is terms like "Wicket", "Bails" & "Bowl". I now understand that a wicket is a cylindrical stick & a bail is like a ball that goes on top of it to show if the wicket has been disturbed. By reading the article I had to guess what a wicket was which at first thought was the bat & at no point knew what a bail was & couldn't tell if it was an act or verb. The term bowl also confused me & I assumed it was just a way Australians & British spoke. I now know that it is different than a throw cuz there are illegal throws. Even if some things are clear, me not understanding the basic terms made the rest kinda hard to read. Neshutahi (talk) 04:56, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- I note that you are new to Wikipedia. Those words that confused you are in blue in the text. That means they are what we call Wikilinks, or hyperlinks, that you can click on to see a new article linked to from that word. Hope that helps. HiLo48 (talk) 05:19, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- I hated clicking each link, straying away from original article & taking time to read it then coming back. It didn't really help. I was able to learn them easier elsewhere in the concept I was needing it in as a whole. It would still help those who don't know to have a short basic of what something is while reading the article your on without the need of having to read a bunch of other articles to try to put them all together & then back to first article or just try to remember everything. A link is helpful for a more in deph info but a quick "(Bail is like a ball)" would be helpful in the moment. Neshutahi (talk) 00:42, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- I note that you are new to Wikipedia. Those words that confused you are in blue in the text. That means they are what we call Wikilinks, or hyperlinks, that you can click on to see a new article linked to from that word. Hope that helps. HiLo48 (talk) 05:19, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- I asked an AI what Cricket was & I understood it. Where I got lost is terms like "Wicket", "Bails" & "Bowl". I now understand that a wicket is a cylindrical stick & a bail is like a ball that goes on top of it to show if the wicket has been disturbed. By reading the article I had to guess what a wicket was which at first thought was the bat & at no point knew what a bail was & couldn't tell if it was an act or verb. The term bowl also confused me & I assumed it was just a way Australians & British spoke. I now know that it is different than a throw cuz there are illegal throws. Even if some things are clear, me not understanding the basic terms made the rest kinda hard to read. Neshutahi (talk) 04:56, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- A decade ago, I wrote a Summary of the laws, to help people who did not want to wade through a novel in order to understand the gist of the game. I hate going to a sport wikipedia page and finding a rules section so detailed it can only appeal to the hardcore fan who already knows the rules. I don't know when or why my section was removed from the article. RSLxii 06:10, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- Update: I took a look at the history--my poor section died from a thousand cuts. Somehow the title "Summary" became "Format of the Game", and then users began adding more and more details to it, and it became ugly and unwieldy, and then finally someone put it out of its misery, probably without even realizing its original purpose was to be a simple explanation for laypeople to understand how the game works. RSLxii 06:31, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
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Please rearrange an introduction sentence. Right now it says:
Forms of cricket range from Twenty20 (also known as T20), with each team batting for a single innings of 20 overs (each "over" being a set of 6 fair opportunities for the batting team to score) and the game generally lasting three to four hours, to Test matches played over five days.
This is better:
Forms of cricket range from Test matches played over five days, to Twenty20 (also known as T20) games generally lasting three to four hours, with each team batting for a single innings of 20 overs (each "over" being a set of 6 fair opportunities for the batting team to score).
The extremely long T20 clause ought to come later: by the time you come to the end, you may have forgotten that you're reading about forms of cricket, so you'll be confused how a Test match fits into the description of T20. If we put Test cricket first, with its short description, there won't be a problem with the long T20 clause. 123.51.107.94 (talk) 01:28, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- I've gone ahead and made that sentence mostly like how you wanted:
- Forms of cricket range from traditional Test matches played over five days, to the newer Twenty20 format (also known as T20), in which each team bats for a single innings of 20 overs (each "over" being a set of 6 fair opportunities for the batting team to score) and the game generally lasts three to four hours.
- GreekApple123 (talk) 19:45, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
"Old-style"?
[edit]How would January 1598 old style correspondent January 1597 new style? Wouldn't it be more like December? Ko 2607:FEA8:FF01:4FA6:1C6:6AA1:FEAD:510F (talk) 15:11, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- In this case it's not the way round that you have it but January 1597 old style corresponding to January 1598 new style. As the article Old Style and New Style dates - linked to from this article - explains, the reason for the difference is that in old style dates New Year's Day wasn't on 1st January but instead on 1st March. JH (talk page) 16:36, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
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Change
The most successful side playing international cricket is Australia, which has won eight One Day International trophies, including six World Cups, more than any other country, and has been the top-rated Test side more than any other country.[citation needed]
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The most successful side playing international cricket is Australia, which has won eight One Day International trophies, including six World Cups, more than any other country, and has been the top-rated Test side more than any other country.[1][2]
1)Added citation of Historical test rankings-
2)Added citation for Australian trophy count
I am new to wikipedia, please ignore any syntactic errors. Xenorals (talk) 20:09, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
- Already done by another editor. DrOrinScrivello (talk) 14:48, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
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